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take_me · Jul 25, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

I also read somewhere about an item called "Staff Wrapping", of which only a few exist, not "Staff Wrapping of XY", only "Staff Wrapping".

foo · Jul 25, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

Yep and this is dumb of you tho.

You've admitted it isn't a mod hack. It isn't. She received it. It was created by the game. No one else can get it. It wasn't a power or ability or some shit like that - the developers have many times said they don't have the ability to spawn items on the servers.

They can make them spawn, but they can't spawn them directly.

Ergo, it is a real item. And it meets your criteria.

Also, players have the ability to teleport to any district too, so I don't get your point there either. Gaile is also limited by district limitations (player maximums), and can't go joining DIstrict 5,340 of GTOB.

I said it's real, meaning I know it is an existing item in the game, but I didn't say it isn't a mod hack.

It wasn't created by the natural game engine. it was defined in the item db, and generated manually, (read: by code), out of the blue. she "received it" just as people "received" armbraces from the people who duped them.

I wrote 'district', but I meant 'outpost'. She mentioned that she was unnaturally teleported to outposts. (I think it was on an event in droks).

The point of the article is listing items which were available and no longer are. the frog was never available.

WhiteWasabi · Jul 25, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Vampiric bows and +12% -1 health regen weapons in PRESEARING. Long before the "Guild Hall Glitch" in pre these mods use to drop. Some people still have the original vamp weapons that are NOT from the guild hall glitch or from any other exploit.
The vamp bows are like 2/-1

zamial · Jul 25, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I recant the fiery flame spitter submision.

cut and paste from the old wiki:
There were once two versions of this item. The previous version had 15% chance of faster skill recharge instead of 10%, and was unavailable for some time and traded amongst players for this reason. All Flame Spitters were converted to 10% in the Wednesday 25th of October update.

link: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fiery_Flame_Spitter

I was unaware of this update.

foo · Jul 25, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by WhiteWasabi

Vampiric bows and +12% -1 health regen weapons in PRESEARING. Long before the "Guild Hall Glitch" in pre these mods use to drop. Some people still have the original vamp weapons that are NOT from the guild hall glitch or from any other exploit.
The vamp bows are like 2/-1

Any official word that they no longer drop?

what do you mean by "The vamp bows are like 2/-1" ?

(Hey Wasabi, want more picks?

)

DarkNecrid · Jul 25, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by foo

It wasn't created by the natural game engine. it was defined in the item db, and generated manually, (read: by code), out of the blue. she "received it" just as people "received" armbraces from the people who duped them.

I'm not going to argue, but I'm going to say you are wrong here and leave it at that. This isn't possible, and it isn't even remotely similar to the armbraces thing. If you want proof, ask her.

foo · Jul 25, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

I'm not going to argue, but I'm going to say you are wrong here and leave it at that. This isn't possible, and it isn't even remotely similar to the armbraces thing. If you want proof, ask her.

No you are!

I'm not talking of legitimacy, but of the technical way in which this was achieved, as opposed to the way ownership of other items are achieved.

And to make it clear why it does not meet my criteria, I'll quote the title of the thread:

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"A list of items which are no longer obtainable."

flyinhigh · Jul 25, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

+15% dmg -1 hp regen inherent mod, they would still accept a -1 mod so it would be a -2 hp regen weapon. as far as i know they dont drop anymore.

DarkNecrid · Jul 25, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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No you are!

I'm not talking of legitimacy, but of the technical way in which this was achieved, as opposed to the way ownership of other items are achieved.

And to make it clear why it does not meet my criteria, I'll quote the title of the thread:

I said I'm not going to argue but if you're going to call me wrong, please back it up with either a quote from Gaile where they magically changed their server/client infrastructure just for her (hint: not happening), or show me how they changed the s/c infrastructure, because what you just said to me is not possible.

Unreal Havoc · Jul 25, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

I said I'm not going to argue but if you're going to call me wrong, please back it up with either a quote from Gaile where they magically changed their server/client infrastructure just for her (hint: not happening), or show me how they changed the s/c infrastructure, because what you just said to me is not possible.

The Frog was never made available to players, so your arguement is pointless really.

Masao · Jul 25, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by foo

tell more.

Zarnas' Wrath is a unique drop from Zarnas Stonewrath in Arborstone. It used to drop in a dark green/turqoise color, but they drop in bright green now.

EDIT: Fairly sure they haven't been updated to the bright green, I saw one of the old dark green ones a couple months ago.

Selket · Jul 25, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

ooo ooo what about the wroth's rod that's req smiting prayers?

foo · Jul 25, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by flyinhigh

+15% dmg -1 hp regen inherent mod, they would still accept a -1 mod so it would be a -2 hp regen weapon. as far as i know they dont drop anymore.

I'm pretty sure they still drop. I myself got a few, including one of a factions skin. they were all pretty cheap to buy, so I'm guessing they weren't too old.

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Originally Posted by Masao

Zarnas' Wrath is a unique drop from Zarnas Stonewrath in Arborstone. It used to drop in a dark green/turqoise color, but they drop in bright green now.

EDIT: Fairly sure they haven't been updated to the bright green, I saw one of the old dark green ones a couple months ago.

That's interesting. can you got some shots?

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Originally Posted by Selket

ooo ooo what about the wroth's rod that's req smiting prayers?

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Originally Posted by wiki

Versions of this item dropped before the December 8th, 2006 update have the following stats:

Light Dmg: 11-22 (Requires 9 Smiting Prayers)
Halves skill recharge of Protection Prayers spells (Chance:20%)
Halves casting time of Protection Prayers spells (Chance:20%)

Versions of this item dropped after the December 8th, 2006 update have the following stats:

Holy Dmg: 11-22 (Requires 9 Smiting Prayers)
Halves skill recharge of Smiting Prayers skills (Chance: 20%)
Energy +5 (while Enchanted)

Looks like it's not the req which changed, but yeah, that's good.

BenjZee · Jul 25, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

how about mixed dyes? or dye remover for that matter

foo · Jul 25, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

how about mixed dyes? or dye remover for that matter

please read the op.

Masao · Jul 25, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Looks like its been up on the wiki for a while now too.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zarnas%27_Wrath

When I get a chance to get on I'll hit up a couple people that horde crappy greens.

BlueNovember · Jul 25, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

I said I'm not going to argue but if you're going to call me wrong, please back it up with either a quote from Gaile where they magically changed their server/client infrastructure just for her (hint: not happening), or show me how they changed the s/c infrastructure, because what you just said to me is not possible.

How on earth else do you think the item was created?
I doubt they changed this magic set-in-stone "s/c infrastructure" you keep referring to. The Frog was certainly rolled out in some update though, as foo suggests with his present example, rather than dropped or spawned.

So yes, code modified, database/blobs edited, item created. What's the big fuss?

In a similar note to Zarnas' Wrath, Chkkr's Flatbow's icon (possibly skin also) changed colour in an update. Pretty uninteresting, but hey.

Yawgmoth · Jul 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Dual damage reduction shields stopped dropping with the Factions update.

Not a single one max base stats item with a requirement of 7 has been confirmed to have dropped after Nightall update. (those plentiful reports of "a friend of my friend had one drop today but accidentaly merch'd" or screenshots of old items don't count). Req.8s are now at the edge of probability, replacing the pre-NF req.7s.

Req.8 versions of certain item skins that couldn't drop as a gold max req.7 before NF can't drop as req.8 anymore, unless new sources dropping that skin were added after that. Example: Gold Max Req.8 Chaos Axes can't drop anymore.

Here I'm not absolutely sure but I think the Multi-profession caster items stopped dropping with Nightfall update, before it was possible to have a Staff/Wand/Focus with requirement and both inherent mods affecting attributes from as much as 3 different professions (people often added a Staff wrapping of +1 attribute from 4th profession to create an even bigger WTF-staff effect)

And for something completely different - the ZChest Tonics aren't on the list because they're confirmed to cycle. But what about Celestial Miniatures? I bet Celestial Pigs will be back in 2019! ;p

NoXiFy · Jul 25, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

gm's can teleport withing a district.

Masao · Jul 25, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Here I'm not absolutely sure but I think the Multi-profession caster items stopped dropping with Nightfall update, before it was possible to have a Staff/Wand/Focus with requirement and both inherent mods affecting attributes from as much as 3 different professions (people often added a Staff wrapping of +1 attribute from 4th profession to create an even bigger WTF-staff effect)

Nah, I had a Monk wand drop with inherent for Fire and Water, and a Blood staff drop with inherents for Curses and Death within the last few months.

Either way, they're at best merch food.